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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Sill<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 30, 2012 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] The silent PV revolution<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div id=":2m5"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>>…</span> Ever so patiently I explain, yes we can build card<br>that get 100 mpg, however... it isn't your classic Detroit V8 with special<br>rare-earth magnets on the fuel line. Yes we can do it, yes the cars are<br>light, slow and dangerous, and there are noooo patents or copyrights<br>preventing any of it from being done.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>As you yourself have pointed out, they're only dangerous when they're competing with 2-ton Detroits and 10-ton semis. Built out of carbon fiber they could be as safe as F1 cars. Too bad we can't outlaw semis and use trains for freight<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No need to autlaw trucks. Divide the existing high-speed roads to physically separate lightweights from the existing fleet. Take out speed bumps everywhere. Remove Botts dots. Increase smoothness requirements for the lightweight lanes. Stay right on chuck-hole repair. Stop using road surface neglect as a government tool to increase taxes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>But I'm pretty sure there are *plenty* of patents that would get in the way of a small-time operator trying to build one. One of the major manufacturers with patent trading deals with the other major manufacturers--and huge legal departments and budgets--could do it, though.<span style='color:#1F497D'> –</span>Dave<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave me lad, there are PLENTY of technologies for lightweights that have patents long since expired. There is nothing all that new in any of these ideas. Back in the 70s during the Middle East oil embargo, hobbyists played these kinds of games, did everything that is being done today. We had competitions, the 2000 mpg “cars” way back then. They don’t require carbon composite tech really. Good old poly-plastics will do at very low penalty. They don’t require anything we didn’t already have 40 yrs ago. I know of exactly NOTHING invented in the last 20 yrs that would be necessary for a great lightweight ape hauler, not one thing. We had everything we need, way back in my own misspent youth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>