I think too much competition (and narrow minded goals) is the problem not the good thing about capitalism. Plus is not really true this form of capitalism (corporatism) is always fostering competition, not at least healthy forms of competition, there are so many monopolies and nested companies. <div>
<br></div><div>Sometime humans need to cooperate instead of competing to achieve grandiose goals. </div><div>Even great national collaborative efforts, like early space exploration, that seemed propelled by international competition with other nations was actually killed by it when the space race was perceived to be won. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If the goal was that of competing with one self, to go to the next step civilizations would have higher and more ambitious goals.</div><div><br></div><div>Giovanni</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:53 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">>…</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Giovanni Santostasi<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>The article is good, even if does silly mistakes in terminology. The essence of the article is actually perfectly right: capitalism is not good for scientific and technological progress, maybe it was good in the past (really? what about Sputnik) but has absolutely become obsolete today.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Common guys, let's stop justify the unjustifiable<span style="color:#1f497d">…</span>Giovanni<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I disagree the article was good, but no matter, we can do a test. If he thinks capitalism is bad for science and technology, and that some other system is better, very well, this world is big and several different systems exist. People are a lot more mobile than they used to be, so (as far as I know) even communist nations do not actually prevent people from leaving. So any scientist can go anywhere she wants. So let the systems compete with each other, see which one produces the most science and technology.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In my mind, what is really great about capitalism is that it fosters competition, and competition fosters excellence. It settles arguments: lets have a race. Let’s see who is strongest, fastest, most agile. Debate on which system is best? No problem, let’s see which one makes for the best outcome, as measured in wealth.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</font></span></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
extropy-chat mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>