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Computer security is a joke in many places it ought not be. Ira Winkler tells some hair-raising anecdotes; an employee of NSA named "Kirk" whose password was "captain", or how he talked his way into root access at a) a military base and b) a fortune 500 IT section, each in under 24 hours. I misunderstood your point, I thought you were saying physical measures were in place and were defeated, not that physical measures were not being observed.<div><br></div><div>Tom<br><br><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: spike66@att.net<br>> To: extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:58:31 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [ExI] pussy riot case<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org<br>> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Anderson<br>> ...<br>> ><br>> >> ... That being said, he didn't actually spill classified <br>> > information, for if it is classified, it wouldn't have been on any <br>> > network which had a USB port. He spilled a ton of sensitive information<br>> for sure.<br>> <br>> >... but the damage he could have done would have been far less without the<br>> assistance of Mr. Assange. I don't know about USB ports and all that, but<br>> every news story says the information or much of it was "classified".<br>> -Kelly<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> <br>> Kelly OK cool, I realized why it is you and I were misunderstanding each<br>> other.<br>> <br>> The people who are in big trouble here are the ones who wrote classified<br>> info on a computer system which isn't qualified for that level of<br>> classification. Any system which has a disk burner, a USB port in which one<br>> can put a flash drive, any kind of removable medium or memory, usually any<br>> computer case which is not locked or can be opened or compromised without<br>> setting off alarms or disabling everything, any computer which is physically<br>> located outside a facility specifically designed for containing classified<br>> info, any computer which meets any one of the above is an example of a<br>> computer on which no one is allowed to write classified info.<br>> <br>> This is puzzling: I read the Wikipedia page, which says the material was a<br>> quarter of a million US diplomatic cables, 40% confidential, 6% secret. So<br>> now I don't understand how all that secret stuff ended up where a 19 yr old<br>> PFC could get to it, 1500 secret documents, oy. That represents a pile of<br>> security clearances which are now up in smoke. From the security office's<br>> point of view, the info was already compromised by the time PFC Manning saw<br>> it. Whoever wrote the info on a non-secure system (see above) would lose<br>> their clearance at the very least, which means they lose their job. I don't<br>> know what they do in a case like this. We need to stand by and see what the<br>> final verdict reads.<br>> <br>> spike<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> extropy-chat mailing list<br>> extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br>> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<br></div></div> </div></body>
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