On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 BillK <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pharos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:56 PM, John Clark wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
>> OK. BillK is the one who insists that the correct policy the West should follow in the Mid East is to do absolutely nothing, he also says " If the oil stops, Western civilisation collapses. So it is not negotiable. The US will do anything to ensure oil supplies and to install friendly governments over the oil resources." So you tell me what this implies.<br>
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</div>> Nice troll, John!<br></blockquote><div><br>A proud troll of the Extropian List since September 29 1993, the oldest troll on the internet!<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Misinterpretation and quoting out of context. Neat.<br></blockquote><div><br>If you just had a brain fart (it can happen to the best of us) and now renounce it I will say no more about that post, but if you stand by it I will not let you forget it. To prevent further charges of out of context quoting I will repeat your entire dog shit dumb post of Friday September 28 2012:<br>
</div><div><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> " Unfortunately the West (mostly the US) has backed itself into a corner.<br>Forget all the metaphysical crap about religions. That's just a<br>
convenient tool to manipulate populations.<br>The West has built a civilisation dependant on oil. End of story.<br>If the oil stops, Western civilisation collapses. So it is not<br>negotiable. The US will do anything to ensure oil supplies and to<br>
install friendly governments over the oil resources. Planning 20 years<br>ahead, not just next month.<br>Everything else is just different stages on the path to that end result.<br>Defending against and killing terrorists is required because the<br>
Western interference has upset some of the Arabs. But, as above, the<br>US presently sees no alternative. The Saudis support the US in public<br>for a very good reason. They don't want to be the next Iraq or Libya.<br>
(In private their support goes elsewhere).<br>Longer term (over 20 years) the US can aim for alternative energy<br>sources. Though they have to persuade the corporations that control<br>the government that they need to change as well.<br>
The West has to move to alternative energy or perish in the process.<br>But it won't be quick or easy."<br></blockquote><div> </div><div> John K Clark <br></div><br><br></div></div>