On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Omar Rahman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rahmans@me.com" target="_blank">rahmans@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5"><div>> Astounding! How exactly is US policy in Afghanistan noble? Propping up the corrupt 'mayor of Kabul' is noble? </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>
<br>Yes. The government in Afghanistan has been brutal and corrupt since.... since forever, nobody thought that was going to change anytime soon, but in the immediate aftermath of 911 many, including me, thought that replacing a brutal and corrupt administration that was openly protecting Osama bin Laden with a brutal and corrupt administration that was not was a noble thing to do. And it is just untenable to expect the USA to allow Osama bin Laden and the Taliban to thumb his nose at them indefinitely. <br>
</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>> Perhaps the nobility is in the enabling of the drug trade?</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>As a libertarian and a Extropian I have nothing against the drug trade. <br><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
> In the end it was intelligence gathering that got to Bin Laden.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes and that intelligence was gathered by interrogating Al-Qaeda members captured in military actions; and in the actual raid that killed Bin Laden more intelligence was obtained about Al-Qaeda than in the last 10 years, so much stuff the helicopters nearly weren't able to fly it all out.<br>
</div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>> as a clandestine terrorist organisation, it is almost impossible to defeat by direct military action. </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Tell that to the leaders of Al-Qaeda, oh wait you can't, most of then have been turned into mush by drone attacks. So tell it to all the people that right after 911 said we could expect a attack of similar scale in a matter of weeks if not days; its been over 11 years and still nothing. <br>
</div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">> Unless we can find some means of growing our resource base faster than both the growth of population and our growing basic 'needs' how can we avoid Malthusian collapse and/or war?<br>
</blockquote><div><br>A keen grasp of the obvious. And by the way, I counted 10 rhetorical questions in your short post, and that's just too many. <br><br> John K Clark <br></div><br></div></div></div>