I admire the support of the community for Bruce (that I don't know personally) in this difficult moment. I approve of the idea of giving people second and third chances and not to be too judgmental. But to continue to repeat that "he did it because he needed badly the money" is something we should not do. <br>
<br>I think the transhumanism movement is already something that people consider suspicious if not evil per se (often people point to some transhumanists connections with satanist organizations), while we see ourselves as the heralds of a better world (not just from a material point of view but also cognitive, moral and spiritual). <br>
<br>Saying things like "he did it because he needed the money" seems almost justifying a thief's actions that I'm sure it is not the impression we want to give. <br><br>Giovanni<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Cryonica <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kryonica@gmail.com" target="_blank">kryonica@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I am also very, very fond of Bruce and Susan and even if Bruce has done something he should not have done this will not alter my sincere sympathy for him. He is genuine transhumanist and cryonicist, a very brilliant guy who has done a lot to spread the memes of the Immortality Institute and this should be kept in mind when judging him. I am sure that if he has stolen money, then it is because he desperately needs it, possibly because being so active a transhumanist he has not had the time to work for a career as well. Like Aubrey he is too involved with the future to earn a proper living and if Susan and he are planning a family this may create a difficult situation for them.<div class="im">
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On 30 Oct 2012, at 16:37, John Grigg wrote:<br>
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DAMN!!! I am shocked to the core to say the least, since I considered Bruce Klein a good friend, who I had gotten to know over the years at various conferences. But I believe that when people are at their most unlovable, that's when they need to be shown love the most, however trite it may sound. I hope Susan is okay!<br>
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John<br></div><div class="im">
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