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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Brent,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What I have had rattling around in my brain for years, decades actually since long before we had anything like the computing horsepower we have today, is an idea for creating devices which stimulate the minds of nursing home patients. One of the causes of their degradation is that nursing homes are so boring. All their life’s challenges are behind them, they don’t really want to just spend hours talking to all their new acquaintances. So most of them just sit in silent misery.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Here is my request for those who have the intestinal fortitude to accept it: go to any local nursing home, especially if they have a wing dedicated to memory care patients in a lockdown. Ask to see it. They will tour you and in most cases won’t even ask why you are there. Look at it for yourself. Do it. Surely some of the same ideas will occur to you as I have had: we could rig up some kind of tech related to those games the kids have which can take input from you from a head motion or even an eye motion. We could rig it up somehow with Second Life or one of the others, make it into a fun game that doesn’t require the patients study anything. All they need to do is look this way or that. We could use those Wii controllers, the various gaming technologies and so on, make it one HELL of a lot more fun to be old and locked in, for DO LET ME ASSURE YOU my young friends, right not it sure looks like NO FUN to me, and furthermore, if we had all this cool stuff, we could probably keep the patients in their own home longer, and the savings could be astonishing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It kills me that I we have all this cool technology and we aren’t using it, or aren’t using it effectively, and we should be, at least for rich people, because rich people deserve the very best that money can buy. They help us all because they pay the up-front costs of developing all this stuff, provide a market, then the rest of us can buy it more cheaply WHEN WE NEED IT and we will. Pardon please my occasional use of all caps, but friends I mean it. We can do better than this, and we should be. Here we have all these rocket scientists with nothing to do since the cold war rather unexpectedly came to an end, all this lofty engineering skill with no good outlet, yet here we sit with a perfectly clear desperate need, with a ready-made market, our OWN PARENTS and grandparents to immediately benefit, and all this to our benefit too, within a few decades. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What if we fail? Imagine that I can’t figure out ways to get the coder jockeys to work on this, and 30 yrs from now that is ME in one of those evolution-forsaken places with nothing to do and what is left of a really fun brain just rots away, and if so I would hafta hate myself for not getting off my ass back in ’12 when I was 52 and capable of at least imagining the kinds of things we should be building. Sheesh, it isn’t even all that difficult. Do we have here, or anyone here friends with people who know how to hack into that game system, what’s it called? The one that watches your motions and uses that as an input. Game hipsters please? Is that a Sony PlayStation 4? Could anyone here clue me how to rig that PS4 game console to read head motions and set that to guide Second Life, or suggest something else that can use simple right left commands, but not Duke Nukem or Lara Croft. It hasta work for gentle church ladies and such. If you accept my challenge, you will see most of the patients are women, and they have zero interest in first-person shooters, but they might go for a Waltons-ized version of Second Life. Is there anything we can do with speech recognition? Is there already somewhere a Waltons-ized adventure game?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Toss me a bone here friends. What do we do next?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Brent Allsop [mailto:brent.allsop@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Allsop<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> spike<br><b>Cc:</b> 'ExI chat list'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Life @ Playstation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Hi Spike,<br><br>Working on projects for nursing home geezers!? Tell me more about this project, sounds very fascinating!<br>I'm also thinking along these lines with Canonizer.com. When you think about moral wisdom, and how best to live one's life, who knows better than old geezers? If we could get all of these retired folks to spend time 'canonizing' things like the best moral behavior, and so on, amplifying everyone's moral wisdom, the old retired people could help us have a concise and quantitative moral reference far better than what we now have with Wikipedia, (to say nothing of the primitive biblical morality - so many of us are stuck in the mud with now) I think. It's such a waste that we aren't better at learning from all these wise and experienced people, in assisted living homes and so on, and us completely ignoring and loosing all they've learned when they die.<br><br>Imagine being able to select your own experts (via selecting your preferred canonizing algorithm), and knowing, concisely and quantitatively, what kind of moral information these very experienced chosen people all understand. Dang, I so wish I had some way to learn and benefit, concisely and quantitatively, from all their experiences.<br><br>Brent Allsop<br><br><br><br><br><br>On 11/4/2012 9:36 AM, spike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>On Behalf Of </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Brent Allsop<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Life @ Playstation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Hi Stefano,<br><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Where are you getting all this from? Especially specifics like "since 1870"?<br><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>All I have is anecdotal evidences, but here's a few things I see that seem to say otherwise?<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Mormon Transhumanism is certainly growing! ...<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(!)</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The average life span continues to go through the roof<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>I, as a type 1 juvenile diabetic, last year<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span>So I just in time dodged that bullet<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>My son was diagnosed <span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span> didn't exist till last year<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Everyone thinks the costs of medical care are going up <span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Excellent points Brent. Well said.</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>We're continuing the working on the "Consciousness Survey Project" at Canonizer.com - now with people like Dennett, Chalmers, Hameroff, Lehar, and so many other contributing world class leaders. <span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I admire you for staying on this over the years, even if at times you must have felt like the lone voice crying out in the wilderness. It encourages me to keep on with my favorite idea for which I have a hard time generating funding or mass enthusiasm, the notion of rigging up virtual realities for old geezers. By this I mean of course older than I am geezers, the kind that live in nursing homes and such.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Brent Allsop<br><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>Brent you are gift pal. Best wishes with those medical sitches for you and your son man.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>