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      Hi Spike,<br>
      <br>
      Working on projects for nursing home geezers!?  Tell me more about
      this project, sounds very fascinating!<br>
      I'm also thinking along these lines with Canonizer.com.  When you
      think about moral wisdom, and how best to live one's life, who
      knows better than old geezers?  If we could get all of these
      retired folks to spend time 'canonizing' things like the best
      moral behavior, and so on, amplifying everyone's moral wisdom, the
      old retired people could help us have a concise and quantitative
      moral reference far better than what we now have with Wikipedia,
      (to say nothing of the primitive biblical morality - so many of us
      are stuck in the mud with now) I think.  It's such a waste that we
      aren't better at learning from all these wise and experienced
      people, in assisted living homes and so on, and us completely
      ignoring and loosing all they've learned when they die.<br>
      <br>
      Imagine being able to select your own experts (via selecting your
      preferred canonizing algorithm), and knowing, concisely and
      quantitatively, what kind of moral information these very
      experienced chosen people all understand.  Dang, I so wish I had
      some way to learn and benefit, concisely and quantitatively, from
      all their experiences.<br>
      <br>
      Brent Allsop<br>
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      On 11/4/2012 9:36 AM, spike wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">On
                  Behalf Of </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Brent
                Allsop<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Life @ Playstation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>Hi Stefano,<br>
            <br>
            <span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>Where are you
            getting all this from?  Especially specifics like "since
            1870"?<br>
            <br>
            <span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>All I have is
            anecdotal evidences, but here's a few things I see that seem
            to say otherwise?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">Mormon Transhumanism is certainly
              growing! ...<o:p></o:p></li>
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            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">The average life span continues to go through
              the roof<span style="color:#1F497D">…</span><o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">I, as a type 1 juvenile diabetic,  last year<span
                style="color:#1F497D">…</span>So I just in time dodged
              that bullet<span style="color:#1F497D">…</span><o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">My son was diagnosed <span
                style="color:#1F497D">…</span> didn't exist till last
              year<span style="color:#1F497D">…</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">Everyone thinks the costs of medical care are
              going up <span style="color:#1F497D">…</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Excellent
              points Brent.  Well said.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">We're continuing the working on the
              "Consciousness Survey Project" at Canonizer.com - now with
              people like Dennett, Chalmers, Hameroff, Lehar, and so
              many other contributing world class leaders.  <span
                style="color:#1F497D">…</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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              style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              admire you for staying on this over the years, even if at
              times you must have felt like the lone voice crying out in
              the wilderness.  It encourages me to keep on with my
              favorite idea for which I have a hard time generating
              funding or mass enthusiasm, the notion of rigging up
              virtual realities for old geezers.  By this I mean of
              course older than I am geezers, the kind that live in
              nursing homes and such.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Brent Allsop<br>
            <br>
            <span style="color:#1F497D">Brent you are gift pal.  Best
              wishes with those medical sitches for you and your son
              man.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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