<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Dan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dan_ust@yahoo.com" target="_blank">dan_ust@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><div><div><br></div>I imagine some of the free rider stuff might fall by the wayside simply because changing the neurotech will change the incentives for it. The thing I would fear, of course, is caring resulting in a total loss of autonomy, but I reckon that's the horror scenario and not the most likely outcome.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### I have been fascinated with the technical details of future goal systems for years. The first time I wrote about "autopsychoengineering" on this list must have been sometime in the last millenium. Of course, it doesn't matter what we might want or desire in this respect - the tautology of evolution means that what survives, survives, and what dies, dies. Still, inquiring minds want to know.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Currently I suspect that the entities that are going to replace us soon will have the following features:</div><div><br></div><div>1) A programmatic way of defining in-groups (for example, instantly recognizing a mind providing appropriate credentials as self), instead of the evolved trickery we have</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Completely altruistic and reliably non-defecting behavior in-group</div><div><br></div><div>3) A common set of moral presets enabling structured stable interactions in-group, for example a non-adversarial dominance mechanism producing many levels of "master", "slave" roles without in-group conflict</div>
<div><br></div><div>4) Lack of individual ability or drive to replicate, which would be supplanted by non-individual design and validation protocols to produce new minds</div><div><br></div><div>5) A large variety of individual cognitive styles operating under a common general protocol for exchange of information, establishment of trust, to assure the ability to explore large spaces of solutions, instead of clustering of solutions due to group-think</div>
<div><br></div><div>You may note this sounds suspiciously like a treatise on eusocial insects couched in sociologist-speak. Well, thinking about these issues is hard, so I fall back on knowledge about solutions that have been around for some time.</div>
<div><br></div><div>One problem that I find rather opaque is how this new society/superorganism would assure that new designs of minds do not start exerting an inappropriate positive feedback on their own creation (i.e. cancerous growth), to the detriment of the society as a whole. Having a single stable entity in charge of new mind design evaluation and old design elimination would be a possible solution, as in a Greg Egan's polis. Another solution may have many moving parts - specialized groups of minds, following structured interaction protocols to gestate new minds, with multiple levels of redundant cross-checking of mind performance before a new design is allowed to be produced in larger numbers, or more importantly, to participate in the design of yet newer generations of minds.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Are ya'all eager to upload and start tinkering?</div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div>
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