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<div> I fully agree Spike, Energy already is money. Switching to a<font size="2">n obviously energy related <font size="2">currency<font size="2"></font> will simple avoid t<font size="2">he confusi<font size="2">on and </font>cyclic references which are already in the system</font></font></font>. As you pointed out in <font size="2">the</font> energy to get gold.<br>
Its a more honest system and possibly easier to understand by <font size="2">the</font> masses.<br>
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From: spike <spike66@att.net><tt><br>
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>>... On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes
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</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:21 AM, <<a href="mailto:ablainey@aol.com">ablainey@aol.com</a>> wrote:
></tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>>... I just think that in a world where energy is the number one commodity,
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></tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt> we need to start using it as our global unit of currency. ... Al
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>Al, energy already is the real currency. We mask it to some extent with our
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>fiat currencies, but oil is real money, and the real measure of value, even
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>more so than gold. Reasoning: we have an arbitrary supply of gold ore at
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>arbitrary quality. It just takes energy to extract the gold. So energy
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>prices drive gold prices, which indirectly define the value of fiat
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>currencies. So energy is already money.
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>...Unfortunately, this fails to take into account the many different kinds
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>of energy, transmission & transport, et cetera....
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</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>Ja, these factors complicate the picture, but I stick to my story that
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>energy is money.
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</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>>... For example, a gallon of gasoline is worth far more than the
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>electricity used to pump it - but if there is a power failure, most gas
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>stations can't pump their gasoline, rendering it temporarily worthless...
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</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>In the '89 earthquake we learned that most stations have an on-site gasoline
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>powered generator for power outages. That was a good thing for us: my tank
>was almost empty when that hit, and I was able to fill up before the power
</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>went back on the next morning.
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</tt><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">></font><tt>spike
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