On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Ben it is part of extropian thinking to look at what happens if there is no singularity and nuclear fusion never does work out for us. </blockquote><div><br>That's the problem, nuclear fusion is hard, really really really hard. Even nature has only figured out one way to produce intense amounts of fusion power on a large scale and that is in a supernova. The sun of course gets its energy from fusion but at any one time per volume the sun only makes about a quarter as much heat as the human body produces from chemical energy; more massive main sequence A2 stars that are about 25 times as bright as the sun have a power production density about the same as people's bodies have. Like nature human beings, at least so far, have only figured out one way to release intense amounts of fusion energy on a large scale, and that is in a H-bomb.<br>
<br>By the way, the giant Laser's at the National Ignition Facility was supposed to reach break even in 2012, that is generate as much energy as it took to produce, but about 6 months ago they announced that wasn't going to happen because the hot dense plasma produced was not behaving as their models said it should; they gave no new date when they thought break even would be reached or even assurance that it ever would be at that facility. <br>
<br> John K Clark<br><br><br><br><h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading" lang="en"><span dir="auto"><br></span></h1><br><br><br></div></div>