On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 Stathis Papaioannou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stathisp@gmail.com" target="_blank">stathisp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> My mental malfunction has been repaired and I am quite literally not the same man I was, so if the doctors can say beyond a reasonable doubt that I am no more likely to murder again than the general population then I should be released. However in the real world the thought experiment you describe almost never happens, and I'm not sure if I should have said "almost".<br>
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</div>> The case I have described is of a treatable organic psychosis. </blockquote><div><br>Then why do people still get murdered? <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Much more commonly involved in forensic cases are the so-called functional psychoses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. These can also be treated very effectively with medication in at least 70% of cases,<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Maybe treatment can help a little bit for 70% of those with garden variety depression or bipolar disorder. Maybe. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about turning a murder into a non-murderer. And I think that someone murdering again AFTER he has already been convicted of murder is as great a failure of the law as executing a innocent man; so even if your very dubious statistic of a 70% success rate is correct that's not nearly good enough, you certainly wouldn't put somebody to death if you thought there was only a 70% chance they were guilty. I would be in favor of releasing a murder if it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the treatment was so good he would be incapable of murdering again. Do you have any treatment like that? <br>
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> but the problem is that the symptoms recur if the medication stops.<br></blockquote><div><br>Not if the medication is cyanide, with that drug only one treatment is needed and you can be quite certain that the murdering symptoms will not reoccur. <br>
<br> John K Clark<br></div><br></div>