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Hi Bryan,<br>
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It seems quite clear that 'tetrochromats' and likely others,
experience color qualities that us mere trichromats have never
experienced before. I guess that's fine if some people have no
curiosity towards knowing what the 4th quality (and everything
else that is phenomenally possible) they've never experienced
before is like.<br>
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But, I am interested, and evidently there is a growing expert
consensus that is similarly interested. And I'm in the camp that
is predicting that the discovery of what the underlying neural
collates of such qualities are, and how these qualities map to
physics, will be the greatest discovery in physics, ever. To say
nothing about how these theories are predicting what uploading,
supper phenomenal minds will be like, and so on. What good is any
thinking about the future, uploading, and all that, while
remaining completely disinterested and ignorant in all that?<br>
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If I was able to eff to you a quality color you've never
experienced before, as the leading theories are predicting will
soon be possible. Might that make you interested in what other
color qualities could be experienced, which your brain could be
expanded to use, to represent more diverse conscious knowledge
with, making you significantly more consciously intelligent?<br>
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Brent Allsop<br>
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On 4/27/2013 2:21 PM, Bryan Bishop wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CABaSBawo12cCXXafMYkabezD8MbFcLcFJOdyudpA9EwOGiqibg@mail.gmail.com"
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<div id=":3s7"> that all agree with the substance dualist on
at least the point that qualia like redness are the most
important part of consciousness.<br>
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<div>You're trying to convince me that something exists, merely
because some failed philosophers attribute other phenomena to
it?</div>
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And you still haven't answered my question. What, where,
and how is a redness quality, and what makes it different
than a greenness quality?</div>
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I don't care, and I don't think that's relevant.<br>
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- Bryan<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://heybryan.org/">http://heybryan.org/</a><br>
1 512 203 0507
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