<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;">Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp@gmail.com> wrote:</span><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">> </font></span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">But this is an unreasonable claim. Even if it turns out to be true it</span><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><div class="y_msg_container"
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">> is an unreasonable claim, because you make it with the certainty of an<br>> a priori proof. </div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="y_msg_container"><font size="3">I don't claim absolute certainty about anything, but I do have an idea what consciousness is even if I don't understand the biological mechanisms that produce it. I also understand the </font>architecture<font size="3"> of digital computers well enough to look at them and see that whatever makes this thing I call consciousness, it sure does not look like a digital computer can do it. </font></div><div class="y_msg_container"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div class="y_msg_container"><font size="3">(I'm careful to almost always preface "computer" with adjective "digital" because
I do believe the brain can be understood as a type of computer. Just not a digital one.)</font> </div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">More broadly, my arguments should be seen as a refutation of a certain theory in the philosophy of mind, namely the computational model. Lots of people think the way I do on these subjects. You just won't find many of them on ExI. </div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Gordon</div><div class="y_msg_container" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div> </div> </div>
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