<div dir="ltr">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Gordon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gts_2000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">gts_2000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div class="im"><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent">As I wrote to Ben, I believe the brain is computable. </span></div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I think that's all anyone else is wanting from you, but it SEEMS like you go back and forth on this. If it is computable then a "computer" can compute it. If it has simulated consciousness, that is just consciousness on a different level.</div>
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent">There is some level of description under which we could write a program that simulated the operations of the brain. But I don't believe the resulting digital computation would have consciousness. It is merely a computer program -- an algorithm designed to mimic the observable operations of a brain -- not an actual brain. </span><br>
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<span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt">I am myself a programmer, by the way (C++). I can make computers do interesting things that appear conscious, but I don't suppose I could ever write a program that would make a computer actually conscious. That would require magic, like the magic that made Pinocchio come alive. What would the code look like? How do I write a "become conscious" function?</span></div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Ok, perhaps we're getting to something useful here. I don't think you can write a C++ program that is conscious. However, I do think you could write a C++ program that stored and managed a huge amount of data that would simulate consciousness. The difference between real and simulated is just a function of which simulation we live in... ;-)</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>-Kelly</div><div style><br></div></div></div></div>