<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Me too! All three: ground based solar, nukes and wind. My contribution is<br>
that we should park all of them way the hell out of the way, then use the<br>
power to convert coal or biomass to liquids and synthesize ammonium<br>
nitrate, rather than send the power to the cities by cable.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Or simply synthesize gasoline. It's a form that gets used (a lot), and<br>less conversions = less energy lost to conversion. There are places<br>
in the US, such as east-central Washington, where the cost of<br></div><div>a given KWh content of electricity is much less than the same KWh<br>in gasoline form - although in most of the US, it is the other way<br>around, sometimes substantially so.<br>
<br>Could one set up a gasoline synthesis factory there, to nail down (via<br>R&D) the non-electricity costs of making gasoline, then establish<br>other plants elsewhere w/privately owned wind/solar/etc.?<br></div><div>
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Question please, for Europe hipsters. Do you guys have some big open areas<br>
where there just isn't much of anything, analogous to the US desert<br>
southwest, somewhere in Europe? If not, how about buying up some land in<br>
the Sahara and using that abundant solar and wind power down there? That<br>
land would hafta be cheaper than sand down there, a few Euros per hectare,<br>
ja? I know Asia has big stretches of nothing in some places.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A quick scan of Google Maps shows quite a few places - mostly<br>hilly or mountainous, where traditional European agriculture was not<br>
of much use. For instance, see the land around Fort William in<br></div><div>Scotland.<br></div></div></div></div>