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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>On Behalf Of </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Anders Sandberg<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] bees again<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 19/05/2013 15:42, spike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>My idea is to try to use genetic engineering to make the cockroach more attractive<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span>If we can make sheep that glow in the dark, we should be able to make prettier cockroaches<span style='color:#1F497D'>… spike</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anders wrote</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br>Some people are trying using ordinary breeding:<br><a href="http://www.roachforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4329">http://www.roachforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4329</a><br>and enthusiasts are of course happy to point out all the existing patterns:<br><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/">http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/</a><br><br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Anders Sandberg<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Anders! These are waaay cool sites! They reinforce a notion I have held for some time. No matter how crazy and weird is one’s particular obsession, there are others out there who are more crazy and weird. The internet helps these people find each other and reinforce our weird obsessions. A pet cockroach site, cool!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I had an idea regarding cockroaches, that Keith might want to comment on, considering he is our local evolutionary psychology hipster. Although a few insects are carnivorous or have stings, are nearly all are stingless vegetarians, completely harmless to humans. Arachnids on the other hand are almost universally carnivorous and most can deliver a painful mechanical bite, even if it is not venomous. A mechanical bite would produce the instant negative feedback that results in a nearly universal human revulsion for arachnid, which could have evolved in this way: humans who had the anti-spider genetic content were less likely to play with them, and thus less likely to get a bite from the few seriously venomous spiders such as the black widow and the brown recluse. Result: slight differential survival rates of generalized anti-arachnid genetic code.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Theory: cockroaches have the prominent legs and oversized antennae, which may resemble two additional legs, which when combined with the drab universal brown coloring, causes the unfortunate cockroach to vaguely resemble a spider.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Common American cockroach:</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?q=cockroach+pictures&start=212&sa=X&hl=en&biw=1157&bih=864&tbm=isch&tbnid=zCeekuBPJcqWMM:&imgrefurl=http://www.crawlspacecentraltn.com/pest-control/cockroach-extermination/american-cockroaches.html&docid=1S0ZyDRst7tOMM&imgurl=http://www.crawlspacecentraltn.com/images/american-cockroach-med.jpg&w=350&h=250&ei=ZQSZUYLUGqaJiAK9nICwCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=413&vpy=338&dur=5889&hovh=190&hovw=266&tx=127&ty=115&page=7&tbnh=139&tbnw=195&ndsp=37&ved=1t:429,r:28,s:200,i:88"><span style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=266 height=190 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CE5477.B35CD510" alt="http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPZmde3IOkhgD-r2CpdjmKpzk0J58bFNWAZyeET0LYd51g7oo"></span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Venomous brown recluse:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=300 height=267 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CE5477.1DF21990" alt="Brown Recluse Spider Picture"></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>