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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] 23andme again<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:03 PM spike <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> After getting my 23AndMe results back, I have made a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> remarkable discovery. I went down through the list of<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> relatives who came up 3rd cousins and contacted them. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> Some have done extensive genealogy, as have I, so I know<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> all 32 of my great^3 grandparents. None of the family<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> names match. Therefore, apparently all my great great<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> great grandmothers were promiscuous sluts.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Are you sure of the 23AndMe results themselves?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We will soon know. I am sending them my son’s DNA. If that DNA doesn’t match about half of mine, either 23 or my bride are in biiiig trouble.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Also, let's say the results are accurate, is it possible some of them might have been mothers who were widowed who remarried and had more kids?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Possibly, but this doesn’t apply in my own case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> (That said, though, the truth is out of wedlock children and promiscuity are not something invented in recent times. So, I'm not totally surprised.)</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dan<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can see one or two of them scoring on one of the farm hands occasionally, but to find that all 16 of them were sleazy bitches would be a shock.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The astonishing thing about all this is how this kind of knowledge accumulates. If you have done any genealogy in the past couple decades, you may be astonished at how easy it has become. For instance, I spent several weekends in the summers of 1989 and 1990 digging through microfilmed census records to discover my roots. The time investment in the archives was about 120 to 140 hours or so, with about 20 trips to the National Archives in San Bruno. Recently I used the web and reproduced all of that in one evening without leaving my house. I did another family line as well, one which I couldn’t find, again in one evening.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We can easily extrapolate and realize that as more and more people do these DNA tests, if great^3 grandma was doing one of the field hands 150 years ago, we will not only be able to catch her sleazy ass, but we can figure out which one she was doing when great^2 grandpa was conceived.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is this a fun time to be living or what?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>