<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 05:19:33 +1200, Will Steinberg </span><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="y_msg_container"><<a ymailto="mailto:steinberg.will@gmail.com" href="mailto:steinberg.will@gmail.com">steinberg.will@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Then I would say: the universe is material; you know this. Yet you<br>> perceive. Animals seem to as well. The paradox of consciousness is<br>> resolved by the fact that we have emerged from an evolving gradient of<br>> universal consciousness, that matter has as much consciousness as its<br>> informational constituents, that we are a sum
consciousness of electron<br>> transfers around myriad atomic nuclei, that 'Gaia,' and every integrated<br>> system, is conscious, and that this is the ONLY rational view for a<br>> scientist.</div><div class="y_msg_container"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div class="y_msg_container"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">That is pan-psychism. If you want to put a God into the picture as your subject suggests, it is pantheism.</span></div><div class="y_msg_container"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div class="y_msg_container"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> Everything else is anthropocentric garbage.</span><br></div><div class="y_msg_container"><br>It might be anthropocentric garbage to project consciousness onto everything in the world, as you seem wont to do.</div><div class="y_msg_container"><br></div><div class="y_msg_container">Gordon<br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>