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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelly Anderson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Tap tap..Hello? Is this thing on? (Or Zombie Apocalypse!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Indeed sir. ObamaCare has created more distrust in society than I have seen in my lifetime. I predict catastrophic failure of the whole venture.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'll second that. However, it will take a long time for the Democrats to acknowledge it as a failure. They still haven't acknowledged their past failures in similar redistribution of wealth schemes. In fact, they point at these failures as their greatest successes. It boggles the mind.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Kelly<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One of the things that went wrong I can see already. The Healthcare.gov site is a place to gather information, an insurance shopping mall. It has been down since it opened on 1 October, but I kept trying. This morning I get thru for the first time. The very first thing they do is ask a bunch of questions confirming my identity, such as three security questions which made me squirm, then immediately went about trying to verify my identity, asking my full legal name, first, middle, and last, my address, my social security number, everything they need to do identity theft. They want my social security number which is actually a tax ID number, linked to the outfit which has been visiting Tea Party members with an audit team as soon as they can be identified. They do this while claiming to not be politically motivated. They want this sent over an open link which can be read by the NSA and shared with anyone they want. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The former head of the IRS recently lied to congress, which is illegal as all hell, by saying she did nothing illegal when email shows she did, then invoked the fifth amendment and left the courtroom. So we are to dump all this personal information into a site run by the government? Indeed? What happened to setting up a site where we can shop our healthcare options? Is this that? Last time I went to the shopping mall, they didn’t ask for my tax ID or ask any personal questions. If the system is supposed to require the exchanges to sell you insurance regardless of pre-existing conditions, why do they even need to know all this stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This system is so doomed to fail, even while they threaten to shut down the government if it does not get implemented this year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>