<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Kelly Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kellycoinguy@gmail.com" target="_blank">kellycoinguy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>> John, please back off the inflammatory rhetoric </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. I will continue to call a spade a spade. And it's a little ironic that the default will calm the market and the embryology is a lie from the fiery pit of hell people are complaining about inflammatory rhetoric. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
>> I don't care if he's right or left, I care that Ted Cruz is not rational.</blockquote></blockquote></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><div><br></div></div><div>> Or perhaps on economic and government growth issues he is the ONLY one who is rational.</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>And perhaps pigs will fly, but probably not.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> > you can't possibly think he's more wrong on those issues than the entire rest of congress.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
<div>Oh but I can!<br></div><div> <br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> > I never heard Ted Cruz or Mike Lee say that defaulting on the debt would be a good idea.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actions speak louder than words, 90 minutes before default would have devastated the world Ted Cruz voted to allow that catastrophe to happen. And I can never forgive him for that. Never.<br>
</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">
<div>> They weren't really going to default on the debt. They were just making a point. </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, it was far far more than that. After the vote and sanity prevailed Ted Cruz lambasted his fellow republicans that didn't vote as he did and made it clear that the Tea Party would finance loonier opponents to challenge them in the Republican primary races. <br>
</div><div><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">> I am a Tea Party member. <br></blockquote><br></div><div>And I too have a confession to make, although I'm embarrassed to admit it I'm still a registered Republican. In fact, I actually agree with about half of what the Tea Party says, the problem is that in the other half they're not just wrong they're BAT SHIT CRAZY WRONG. <br>
</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>> you are conflating right wing religious zealots with the people who just want lower taxes and smaller government. They are NOT always the same. I give myself as a prime example.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I want lower taxes and smaller government too, but the way to do that is to vote to buy less stuff, not to vote to refuse to pay for stuff you've already voted to buy. And if I don't get my way I'm not going to try my very best to set off a economic H bomb that would destroy the world as the hillbilly Tea Party did.<br>
<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>> It's the level at which we're doing it now that is of concern.</div><div>This chart shows the situation really clearly.</div>
<div><a href="http://bit.ly/19TizJy" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/19TizJy</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That chart is really not a very good argument that debt is bad, according to it the largest percentage of debt to GDP happen in 1946, just before the 1950's boon times and the largest increase in economic activity in history. And the second largest economic boon happened during the Clinton years, a time of increasing debt.<br>
<br></div><div> John k Clark<br></div><div><br> </div></div><div><br></div></div><br></div></div>