<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:51 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>…</span>I see NOTHING wrong with the NSA spying on Angela Merkel. The only thing they did wrong was allowing themselves to get caught<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">…</span><br>
</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Ja, I do see something wrong with the NSA spying on me however. If I were Merkel, I suppose I would feel likewise.</span></p>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The constitution only protects the privacy of US citizens, and possibly visitors to the USA. Ms. Merkel is a foreign national who is not protected by the constitution. </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">A problem I have had with the current bunch is they don’t seem to know the difference between our friends and our enemies. They alienate exactly the kinds who we should be working hard to strengthen alliances, the Brits, the French, the commies, the Italians, DEFINITELY the krauts, all our natural allies as the world realigns after retiring the old capitalism/communism divide, these having merged into one nearly indistinguishable mass. The government should somehow farm out the task of surveillance to private companies and industries, for none of the above list are likely to be military adversaries. But our companies will compete against each other, and it looks like China will be home to the most of the strongest of those companies.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Which is why they shouldn't have gotten caught. Don't we have the obligation to make sure our "friends" are really our friends, even behind closed doors?</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">We see the current bunch are saying the Tea Party patriots are terrorists and coming very close to identifying them as national enemies. OK then what happens if they get a bunch of seats in congress next fall, more than they already have? </span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>History is not with them on gaining seats during the second term of a lame duck president.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>…</span>I thought of something else. All this time and oxygen spent on Obamacare guarantees that we aren't doing anything to reform Social Security, Medicare and Medicai<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">d. </span>Since those are the REAL problem areas in the federal budget, Obamacare is like the magician making us look away from where the real action is. I can't believe I didn't see the trick before now! Even talk radio is ignoring that stuff for the moment.<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> –</span>Kelly<br>
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have heard a closely related theory, is that this O-care is a sacrificial lamb, an intentional failure intended to distract us from immigration reform or a path to single payer. </span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oh, I totally believe we're on the path to single payer. O-care is just the first step down a long road. As for immigration reform, I don't think the house is going to let that happen.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The reason I don’t find the theory compelling is that health care reform is the cornerstone of liberal thought, a huge expansion of government power, and something liberals have really wanted for a really long time. </span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry, I didn't say it was intentional. It is just a happy side effect for the socialists in government that O-care is taking all the lead. If it weren't there on the front line though, maybe we could have some kind of reform of Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. Just saying.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But Obamacare failing is exactly what will lead to a single payer system. It's too big to fail, remember?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">To fail this badly would need to call into question the whole notion of big government being trusted with anything, never mind our entire healthcare system, along with our medical records. I can’t imagine Obama and his people wanting to decrease the power of central government.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They can't help but fail. It is the government we're talking about. They never really succeed at anything really important. Yes, they occasionally build a bridge to somewhere. Yes, they did defend us against Hitler. But generally speaking if you want something screwed up badly enough you give it to the government and you are assured it will be.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(55,96,146)">I can imagine a younger generation coming up which is scarcely recognizable as a younger generation. They may wake up and see that the government came up with all these healthcare reforms and then sent them the bill. Then it will be the sixties all over again with many of the roles reversed in a sense. Instead of burning draft cards, that generation might burn their W2 forms. Then we have a whole new set of headaches.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would love to see the youth of America revolt against this. It is them who are getting the biggest shaft from O-care. Paying for insurance that THEY DON'T NEED. It is redistribution of health. Only it is from the poorest youth of America who can't get a job coming out of college, to the richest, the older folk in America, who are the most well off demographic. I thought socialism was supposed to help the poor.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">></span> I'll opt out unless I have an employer providing insurance by then… Kelly</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092">Me too. I</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#376092">n any </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">election the guy with the simplest shortest bumper sticker gets a big advantage. This was known even before there were bumpers, back in 1840 with Tippecanoe and Tyler too, which could be even further shortened to Tip and Ty. Later, it was: I Like Ike.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In the coming election I can imagine the bumper stickers:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Obama Lied, HealthCare Died</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Obama lied, grandma died</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hillary Failed to Answer the 3am Call</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>While Obama slept through it.</div>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;text-indent:0.5in">HealthCare.gov is why the Republicans Just Said No</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>LOL</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">
<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My favorite I have thought of so far:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tune In, Turn On, Opt Out</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>LOL. That will work for a few years, until the penalties are so large that you have to pay attention to them. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span style="color:rgb(55,96,146)">I can imagine a counterpart to that, perhaps a T-shirt worn by drunken cheerleaders at a frat party, emblazoned with the words:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"> OPT IN! or no pussy for YOU!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092">Or a related meme, also appropriate on a young attractive female body:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#376092"> Opt in, shell out or fuck off.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092">Or<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092"> You no opt in, I no put out.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#376092"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#376092">{8^D Kelly we could make a ton of money selling those shirts.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
I have already failed at selling T-Shirts, remember Caucasians for Mitt Romney?</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, I haven't learned my lesson, I'm now working on a T-Shirt deal for <a href="http://www.itanimulli.com">http://www.itanimulli.com</a> (Note that is <a href="http://illuminati.com">illuminati.com</a> spelled backwards. You should see what happens when you type that into a web browser.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(55,96,146)">Inviting creative minds in ExI-chat for T-shirt or bumper sticker suggestions, with no particular political view preferred. I am far more interested in making money than spreading any particular meme.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I've always liked:</div><div>You can keep the Change, but I want my Hope back.</div><div><br></div><div>-Kelly</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>