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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-11-04 22:24, Kelly Anderson
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:51 PM, spike <span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>…</span>I
see NOTHING wrong with the NSA spying on Angela
Merkel. The only thing they did wrong was allowing
themselves to get caught<span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Ja,
I do see something wrong with the NSA spying on
me however. If I were Merkel, I suppose I would
feel likewise.</span></p>
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<div>The constitution only protects the privacy of US
citizens, and possibly visitors to the USA. Ms. Merkel is
a foreign national who is not protected by the
constitution. <br>
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Actually, visitors to the US (and US citizens returning home from
abroad) pass through a zone where they have very few constitutional
protections:<br>
<a
href="https://www.eff.org/press/releases/protect-yourself-intrusive-laptop-and-phone-searches-us-border">https://www.eff.org/press/releases/protect-yourself-intrusive-laptop-and-phone-searches-us-border</a><br>
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Meanwhile the Swedish constitution protects Swedish citizens. The
law also allows the FRA (the military intelligence agency) to
monitor communications crossing Swedish borders (remember that there
are some internet backbone trunks crossing the border). Isn't it
lovely that the 9 million Swedes who stay at home are safe from
eavesdropping? Sure, there are 7.113 billion foreigners (and Swedes
abroad) who are fair game.<br>
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No wonder Sweden is part of the "14 eyes" collaboration - the
smaller the country, the more of the world it is constitutionally
allowed to see... and then share.<br>
<a
href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/01/gchq-europe-spy-agencies-mass-surveillance-snowden">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/01/gchq-europe-spy-agencies-mass-surveillance-snowden</a><br>
And as foreign minister Bildt responded, blanket surveillance
doesn't have chilling effects as long as it is performed discreetly.<br>
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I wonder how much China (or Saudi Arabia, the Mafia, or EvilCorp)
would be willing to pay for one small country in the collaboration
to turn double agent? Obama's blackberry was certified by the NSA...
which might be a bad thing in this case.<br>
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(Nej, kära FRA, jag implicerar naturligtvis ingenting om er. Jag är
en lojal medborgare och litar helt på er - den svenska
konspirationen i Oxford fortgår precis som planerat. Men jag undrar
om vi kan lita på norrmännen...)<br>
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Dr Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University
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