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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>>…</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] kepler study says 8.8e9 earthlike planets<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:06 AM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>>…</span>For any intelligent tech-enabled species, thinking and inventing are fun<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> Why are there no teenagers in kindergarten?<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike clearly you have not visited your local high school for a while.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Perhaps civilizations with the power to overcome interstellar distances and lightspeed delays simply move out of this neighborhood<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ja, or moved into their own nieghborhood: they turned inward. If a civilization figures out how to super-organize matter, as our own species has done more and more in just the past few centuries, then mastery of that could cause that species to forget other stars as far away and irrelevant. The problem I find with that theory is what I call the Shakespeare anomaly. To high schoolers, Shakespeare is far away and irrelevant. But a few of them find his stuff very cool and interesting. I know, I was one of those oddballs. So a Shakespeare species would be an odd one which discovers nanotech and turns inward (inloads) but still thinks there is something worthwhile in listening to, and perhaps transmitting to, species in transition, such as modern humans.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>So let us assume the transition time from interstellar EM signaling capability to nanotech is generally short, a century or two. If tech-transitioned species are rare, then Shakespeare oddballs are even more rare, so it shouldn’t surprise us that we haven’t seen one yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> Maybe 8.8e9 earthlike planets is just an incubator and we've just about hatched?<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ja, we would be in that short transition period. Problem: the NASA findings increased by four orders of magnitude the number of expected Shakespeare species. So that news is evidence against the whole notion.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Sorry no, I don't have any cosmology evidence to support this idea<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Don’t worry too much about evidence yet; we are back to the brainstorming phase.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>spike</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>