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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] FDA Tells Google-Backed 23andMe to Halt DNA Test Service<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM, BillK <<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pharos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>So 23andMe now have to prove that their tests actually work. If they<br>say a subject is at risk of a disease, they have to prove it.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just out of curiosity - Spike, what are your plans in case the data 23andMe sent you turns out to be bogus? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dunno. Open to suggestion on that. I didn’t really take the medical stuff very seriously. That wasn’t what I meant with finding out stuff I wish I didn’t know. As far as my disease risks, I do hope that part is right: I got off easy on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The DNA links to distant cousins turned out to be worth the price many times over, if I can force myself to forget about that incident with General Sherman’s boys. That one still haunts me, and had a big negative impact on my black cousins. It was all a terrific tool for genealogy, which was at a dead end in so many ways. Now I mostly figured out where the genetic anomalies are located, and found the people who know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regarding the medical stuff, a couple months ago I went for my regular annual checkup (my last one for the foreseeable, thankyouverymuch ObamaCare.) My doctor and I went over the results from 23andMe. She hadn’t actually seen one of them before, but it indicated a risk for a condition, so she ordered a test, and sure enough, I came back a 1.7 sigma case on that. Fortunately it was nothing life-threatening. But I am taking steps to compensate. Now isn’t that a perfectly legitimate argument for taking the test? Just use the DNA tests to see if there is some more-rigorous medical tests that might be done. It isn’t a conclusive diagnostic test in itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regarding the earlier comment on their order to cease marketing the spit kit, as of last night, you can still order the kits. One site seems to think it had to do with a TV commercial 23andMe was running. If the FDA is saying you need some kind of approval to advertise the service, that might be understandable. I still disagree with stopping the marketing effort, but I disagree with a lot of what is going on with the US government. They don’t listen to me. They don’t listen to any of us. After November 2014 perhaps they will listen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I learned so much about genetics from the whole exercise. I would do it again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>