<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>-There must be better and affordable ways to solve the energy problem such as;</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-increase PV efficiency from the current 15% to at least 40%. - Reduce panel costs of an order of magnitude</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-impose for new construction 100% power independency and utilization of green sources</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Give tax breaks and other incentives for the power system transformation</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Utilize all resources (wind, undersea currents, geothermal etc)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>reduce power compsumption with advanced technologies</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-redesign trasnportation system to allow green power utilization</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>These and several other measures can be implemented right now , without waiting decades in unaffordable and crazy projects that could only increase pollution and create dangerous zones in our planet. As for space development much better ideas , including standardization of components, reduce costs for accessibility, utilization of asteroids and other incentives for private initiatives can be
implemented.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Giorgio Gaviraghi</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Let's opena discussion on green power generation possibilities</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> Il Sabato 30 Novembre 2013 12:36, Anders Sandberg <anders@aleph.se> ha
scritto:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">On 2013-11-30 10:56, Ben wrote:<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/lunaring.html" target="_blank">http://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/lunaring.html</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Any observations on this? Better/worse than solar power satellites?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Same problem with voltage conversion as Elon Musk felt made SPS too <br clear="none">inefficient, much longer transmission distance, not geostationary, and <br clear="none">also requires getting building material far beyond geostationary orbit.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The fundamental security problem is that either the beams are weak <br clear="none">enough that they are no weapons of mass destruction, and then the <br clear="none">rectennas are just like much better solar collectors of the same size. <br clear="none">Or the beams have
real oomph, and now you have an orbital death ray <br clear="none">which means geopolitics gets tricky.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Still, robotic factories on the moon are always robotic factories on the <br clear="none">moon. The project would both force and enable proper space colonisation.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Dr Anders Sandberg<br clear="none">Future of Humanity Institute<br clear="none">Oxford Martin School<br clear="none">Oxford University<div class="yqt3122988035" id="yqtfd73986"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">extropy-chat mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat"
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