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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>>…</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] how to tame hurricanes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:51 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>>…</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regarding that garbage island, I had some ideas on how to deal with that, but I am having my doubts now</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I sometimes get a vague feeling that whole trash island notion is exaggerated.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>I've never seen a baby pigeon either but I suspect they do exist. :p<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Me lad, you should experience the subtle pleasures of bird watching. It isn’t fun like racing motorcycles, but it has its rewards for those who have patience and inner serenity.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Surely not ALL those google images for "garbage gyre" are fake.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed. The pictures I see are when garbage piles up on the beach. I saw a comment on the web about this floating garbage patch that is in places 90 ft thick. OK then, if it is that thick, it also has to be wide, and if so, we should be able to see it from 10km, the altitude of a cruising 747. I can see features as small as a sailboat from that high, so if this garbage patch is 90 ft thick, I would think it would need to be at least a km diameter, ja? So where is a picture of it from 10km? Or is it a bunch of smaller patches? The answer matters for how we would design the ship to go out there and scoop it out for recycling, or just good old Greenpeace-style cleanup. I would contribute a hundred bucks to that. I contribute that much and more to a local trash cleanup with my cub scouts. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So if that trash island is real, it would make sense to build an incinerator aboard a retired warship (which are practically free to anyone with a good idea), then go out there and get it. A local hobbyist group recently took possession of a retired Coast Guard cutter as an example. You can go on satellite view, enter Carquinez Strait Martinez CA, and find some old ships moored out in the bay. Something like that could be repurposed for grabbing scoops of floating plastic trash and incinerating it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>