<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Agreed - but it's all theoretically possible now. My view of engineers and other tech people is that is they know it can be done they will eventually find a way. I don't have to tell this crowd that human beings are tinkers, endlessly worrying at something until they get what they want. And has there ever been a scientific theory that has not been turned over in one way or another by this tinkering? Or at least altered, like Newton's?<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Anders Sandberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se" target="_blank">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>While stem cells and regenerative medicine are promising, it is important not to oversell them as a panacea. Translational science is a valley of death for promising ideas: remember when interferon was going to cure cancer? Growing new organs are not that easy, and if you need surgery to connect them to the body you are going to do risky cutting and anaesthesia. Killing cancer cells with bacteria and viruses requires you to master the immune system (guess why phage therapy is not widely used?) </div>
<div><br></div><div>Bodies are messy, complex environments that rarely are modular enough to allow magic bullets or neat replacement. Health is worth the effort, but the stretch between "awesome in the lab" to "in a clinic near you" is very long. Just saying. </div>
<br><br>Anders Sandberg,
Future of Humanity Institute
Philosophy Faculty of Oxford University<br><br><br><div><span title="foozler83@gmail.com">William Flynn Wallace</span><span> <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>></span> , 30/1/2014 8:20 PM:<div>
<div class="h5"><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">What stem cells will eventually do is to replace defective cells in our organs so we can keep them and not have to replace them. We will have an all new heart that was created inside our own body, not grown in a lab. As for cancers, we will create bacteria and viruses in the lab that will go everywhere our blood goes and kill cancer cells. (That is, until we can redesign the immune system to do this automatically.) bill<br>
</div><div><br><br><div>On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Adrian Tymes <span><<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>You could replace organs if you knew how to make them, which may rule out replacing the brain...at first, anyway.</p>
<p>And then there are issues which do not narrow down to single organ replacement, such as cancer or most diseases.</p>
<p>But the big issue is going to be making it affordable. Health care already has major problems there.</p>
<div><div>On Jan 30, 2014 3:10 AM, "Henry Rivera" <<a href="mailto:hrivera@alumni.virginia.edu" target="_blank">hrivera@alumni.virginia.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
</div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div>Have you heard about this?<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25917270" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25917270</a><div><br></div><div>If we are able to mass produce stem cells, and there is no religious opposition about embryos at play, shouldn't we be able to replace/refresh all our organs including our skin indefinitely? Is this the soon-to-come viable route to longevity if not immortality?! Someone here has thought about this before, I'm sure. School me please. Thanks in advance. </div>
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