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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It seems she may be confusing DIYbio and BioHackers with transhumanists. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I wonder who that speaker was. It would be interesting to know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Natasha<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.natasha.cc/"><span style='color:windowtext'>Natasha Vita-More, PhD</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Faculty, University of Advancing Technology<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chair, Humanity+<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>New Book at <span style='color:#E36C0A'><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/188-1002006-3563941?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the%20transhumanist%20reader&sprefix=the+transhumanist+re%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athe%20transhumanist%20reader"><span style='color:#E36C0A'>Amazon</span></a>!</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=67 height=96 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CF28B0.6C600160" alt="cover email"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Human Aging<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>On Feb 13, 2014 9:22 AM, <<a href="mailto:natasha@natasha.cc">natasha@natasha.cc</a>> wrote:<br>> Thank you Adrian. This is kind and generous of you to do. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Ah, my friend likes to show off what she's found. One of her big things is how most people these days are likely to live to be 100, and many social institutions are not ready for that.<o:p></o:p></p><p>> (The comment about anti-aging snake oil is strange. Has someone here been selling snake oil?)<o:p></o:p></p><p>The majority of her exposure to transhumanism as it is actually practiced has been people pushing unproven and dangerous (and not apparently measurably effective) drugs, most of them supposedly nootropic. She has found similar in other attempts to modify our biology. The high value prospect is a strong lure for people to skip the testing (that makes sure the drug actually does what its sellers claim, no matter how wonderful it would be if it worked).<o:p></o:p></p><p>Which is not to say it can't be done, just that there is a very strong fraud problem. It was bad enough that she had to walk out on a talk Mr. de Grey was to give before he got to the podium, when the speaker before him pushed pure snake oil to a degree that probably killed some of the audience within a couple years. (I was there with her, and agree with her decision.)<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>