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> If the DIYBio crowd and biohackers aren't transhumanists, I don't know who is!<br>
><br><br></div>DIYBio, Grinders etc may not follow any transhumanist philosophy by will or ignorance.<br></div>If you describe transhumanism loosely to include anyone who tries to augment themselves, then we have to go a long way back to find the first transhumanist.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Adrian Tymes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Mike Dougherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msd001@gmail.com" target="_blank">msd001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Maybe; if someone was using using the terms interchangeably. We'd have to decide whether or not the distinction is worth a side discussion. If you are a lumber company, the point is very relevant. (that's a good example, btw) <br>
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<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think many people can agree intellectually with transhumanist goals at the same time they are squicked by biohacking. (ex: Of course I'd like a sixth sense about the presence/strength of EM fields, but not enough to insert magnets into my fingertips) <br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Indeed, but what means toward preventing or slowing human aging (aside from uploading, or schemes that are essentially uploading) have been presented that are not biohacking? Thus, in this very narrow context, what is the difference as reduces to practice between transhumanism and biohacking?<br>
<br>As to the talk - IIRC, it was at the Cubberly Community Center, some evening in 200X. I do not recall beyond that, although googling suggests that it was <a href="http://www.svhi.com/newsletters/2009/slf-052009.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.svhi.com/newsletters/2009/slf-052009.pdf</a> and <a href="http://www.suretomeet.com/exec/gt/event.h,event=8b9b4d1bc178" target="_blank">http://www.suretomeet.com/exec/gt/event.h,event=8b9b4d1bc178</a> . Again, the problem was that the presentations before Aubrey's dissolved into pitches for not-well-tested and potentially counterproductive medication routines, such that we left before Aubrey even took the podium.<br>
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