<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>On Mar 3, 2014, at 5:57 PM, "spike" <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a> [<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Sill<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 03, 2014 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] guitar playing robot<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Exactly, there's no need for guitar-playing robots with MIDI and Pro Tools. No doubt this tech has allowed composers to realize their music without the hurdle of mastering an instrument.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-Dave<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">MIDI is a great composition tool, but I contend that for performance purposes, actually plucking the strings on an actual guitar is better than digital simulations of each pitch. Reasoning: plucking a guitar string excites resonances in other strings in different ways, depending on which other strings are vibrating. So in theory a MIDI guitar cannot be exactly the same as an actual guitar. MIDI is perfectly acceptable for composing, but this guitar robot is the next step, a really cool one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">spike</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div><div>'Plucking strings' vs 'samples of plucking strings' aside, there is the notion that humans are betters players than MIDI because they are more emotional. The thing is, a piece can be performed by a human and recorded live into MIDI. Then playing it back would sound identical to the human performance. The nuances, off beat notes, intensity/volume changes can be represented in MIDI (depending on the instrument). So if not put there when composing with MIDI, they can can be recorded during human playback into MIDI. </div><div><br></div><div>We are already there. Computers play compositions as well as humans and most don't even notice. And that's the point--one can't tell the difference. That is, unless the computers are outperforming the humans and doing what humans find impossible. </div></div><div>-Henry</div></body></html>