<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">For anyone: just when did it change? By definition, a person seriously mentally ill is not able to partake in any legal anything. His opinion does not matter. In my day you could get someone involuntarily committed with a judge and a psychiatrist. I even saw one guy admitted because he refused surgery on his appendix (got admitted, got the surgery - died). bill w<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:00 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelly Anderson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 07, 2014 10:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Basic Income - Basic Housing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d">>>…</span>On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.25in">
<span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0b5394">I don't know either but I do know this: alcoholics and drug addicts and the mentally retarded and psychotic should not be homeless unless they simply will not stay put in some kind of housing</span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">…</span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0b5394"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>Bill, When the courts prevent people from being incarcerated against their will when seriously mentally ill, it is a great victory for the personal freedom of the individual who is mentally ill. But with freedom comes responsibility<span style="color:#1f497d">…</span>-Kelly<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ja. Russia killed the notion of helping the mentally ill against their will by incarcerating in mental institutions those who espoused politically unconventional notions. In our modern times in America, note how often we are now seeing comments about those who believe that global warming is not caused by humans. These people are increasingly being seen as crazy and dangerous. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If we had a legal system which allowed them to be incarcerated against their will, the party in power could just incarcerate its political opponents, and oh how convenient that would be. Permanent supermajority in congress, things could get DONE! Just as in the case of the Affordable Care Act, actual debate on the floor of congress would be unnecessary. Insurance companies could just buy all the legislation they want on their own terms, the political opposition would be in mental institutions, or stifled under the threat of gong there, nooo problem.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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