<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Is there any one who doesn't think that Christianity (can't speak for the other ones) wasn't made up as time went on? It took 900 years for the church to decide that priests should not marry. It took 1400 years for the church to decide that marriage was a sacrament. And lots more. Now look at them: they are stuck with their own teachings - hoist on their own petard (do look that word up). So many things have challenged those teachings that it divides believers into those who believe it all literally and those who just pick and choose what to believe, and many of those are leaving the Catholic church and many others. Since conservatism/liberalism is somewhat genetic we are doomed to have some radical conservatives in the religious and political arenas (until we change humanity with eugenics like my book suggests). bill w<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">>…</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] BICEP2 and the Fermi paradox<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">>…</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> And although in some ways the New Testament is kinder and gentler than the Old in other ways it is not. Yahweh may be the most unpleasant character in all of fiction but at least when you were dead he was through messing around with you; but when you kick the bucket Jesus is just getting warmed up and is determined to torturer you at a intensity level beyond human imagination and to keep doing it not for an astronomical number of years but for an INFINITE number of years. John K Clark<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John, I partially agree with what you say, however the notion of eternal suffering for the wicked is a more recent invention than the writings of the NT. It makes comments in there about the final fate of the wicked unbelievers, but it doesn’t actually say anything about an immoral soul, or that the suffering of the damned is eternal. Their damnation is said to be eternal, but it doesn’t say they are alive to suffer. The worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched (Mark ch.9) but that’s the worm and the fire, not the damned humans. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The notion of eternal suffering of an immortal being was invented centuries after the last word of the NT was written.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>
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