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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>>…</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tara Maya<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] dna ethics question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>I didn't say paternity certainty would solve ALL problems. But paternity uncertainty explains otherwise inexplicable laws -- fairly common in many older civilizations -- that the penalty for rape FOR THE WOMAN WHO WAS ASSAULTED was to either marry her rapist or be herself murdered<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ah yes, that one is odd indeed. To a large extent I am in agreement with your thesis. The culture in which those kinds of laws exist are based on the notion that their leader is a man who is held up as the ideal of human behavior, kinda like their equivalent of the Christian’s Hoerkheimer or his twin brother. That culture’s ideal of human behavior, that paragon of virtue, when in his 50s married a girl when she was NINE years old, and copulated with her at age 11. They can talk until I fall asleep permanently about how times were different back then, but no, I ain’t buying. Times were different indeed, but even then they had to know that if a fifth-grader gets pregnant, she is at a high risk of dying. Her child-body isn’t ready for that yet. They will not be able to convince me that it was somehow OK to mate with her at that tender age. This guy is their ideal of human behavior, a man who demonstrated such callous disregard for the safety and well-being of his own child bride. Given that, have we any reason for astonishment when they derive weird laws like the one you mentioned?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That is not really explainable as a concern about property, but I submit that it is explicable (if still horrid) as a way for a man to ensure that property is inherited by his own heirs.<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span>Tara Maya<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I heard something like this from a neighbor who fled Vietnam in a small open boat in 1975. She was trying to explain what we heard so much about: the fleeing refugees were raped by pirates. We think of rape as a brutal sex crime, which it is here. For the fleeing Vietnamese, the pirates primarily wanted the gold that some of them, especially the women, had secreted in their private orifices.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oy such a grim topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>