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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] How the world collapses<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, May 17, 2014 , spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> > Ja, your car can produce 306 peak horsepower, but its average usage is less than a tenth of that typically,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>So now I accelerate at a snail's pace<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ja. You give up some of your peak acceleration, resulting in a huge weight reduction of the vehicle.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> and still have a 48 foot by 48 foot square of solar cells mounted on top of my car, and I still need that "WIDE LOAD" banner. And I still can't use my car at night or on cloudy days<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How bizarre, Johnny! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Think it over: you carry a small IC running at peak efficiency and output always, you have energy storage onboard. Think of it as a Nissan Leaf with about half the batteries and a 5 kw generator running full bore the whole time you are on the road. Granted it isn’t fast off the line, and practical top speeds would be about 100 km/hr, but they would be cheap, reliable, low-cost transportation. Those of us who like our V8s can keep our V8s. Assuming we can afford them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>To me that sounds like a big step backward; I thought the idea was to gain more control over time and space not less<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>It’s a nice goal of course. Now explain how we are going to handle the load when a billion more Chinese people and a billion more Indian people want to drive. And the billion more that will be born in the next decade want to eat.</span><br><br>On Sun, May 18, 2014 Tomaz Kristan <<a href="mailto:protokol2020@gmail.com" target="_blank">protokol2020@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> Time is much more precious than oil.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>That my friend is one excellent point! I wish I'd said that. John K Clark<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course it is, now. Oil is still practically free: it is easy to recover. How hard is it to extrapolate forward all the trends we already see? How long do you expect oil to stay practically free? How will we do when we are having to cook the stuff out of the oil sands of Canada? Will we really need to keep tearing around to the latest hip-hop concert or football game? What are we doing that is really all that important?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>