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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/27/2014 02:33 AM, Eugenio
Martínez wrote:<br>
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Chinese would never have suffered the horrors of the 20th
century had they the right to own guns. When the Japanese
invaded during the war and killed allll those unarmed
people, imagine what would have happened had there been a
rifle behind every blade of grass.<br>
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USA is a country with a absurd number of violent crimes. Years
and years and years of civilians having guns at homes, years
and years and years of civilians being killed. Spanish civil
war showed what happened with armed population during a armed
conflict: They joined the army that they were in favour... and
killed and raped and made a lot of revenges and lootering in
every small town and every ungoverned city.<br>
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US crime rate has been declining since the 80s. <br>
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Violent crime rate:<br>
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While the US homicide rate is about 4x what it is in Europe it too
has been declining since the early 90s.<br>
Not exactly people getting killed left and right and in their homes
and the streets that some anti-gun folks would portray. <br>
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Averaged out there were around 16,000 homicides per year from
2000-2010. Of those 66% were committed using a gun. Thus this
mean everyone should be disallowed to have a gun legally? I don't
think so. Of those 16,000, 80% are gang related. So in a
country of 300 million people and 250 million guns that is around
3,000 / year or 1 in 100,000 non-gang related homicides by gun. <br>
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I don´t know if it is a question of age or education, but even
the rightest democrat parties in Europe (Like European Popular
Party) are against weapons owned by civilians and it is seen as
something barbaric that americans do. In Europe only the nazis
parties and maybe a rare couple more are pro-weapons.<br>
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The right to life implies the right of self-defense. I am 60 years
old. I am zero match for a 20-something out to do me harm if I do
not have some means like a gun to protect myself. <br>
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solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">How
any sane person could compare the crimes of Mao Zedong to the
"crimes" of manufacturing the goods and services of the modern
world is a level intellectual dishonesty and/or
muddle-headedness that is simply beyond my comprehension.<br>
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Capitalism is the way? 16.7 million children living in food
insecure households and US having the second highest relative
child poverty rates in the developed world (2011 data. From
wikipedia.)<br>
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What we have in the US is socialist quite strongly, to be more
precise it is what Mussolini described as fascism as government is
highly involved in all business and the economy. So blaming it on
"capitalism" is rather disingenuous. <br>
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Also you did not answer the question. If you compared what exists
even in the somewhat blighted US today to the reign of Mao Zedong
that is unpardonable. I will not take you seriously after such a
remark and certainly not after you didn't bother to retract it.<br>
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- samantha<br>
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