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</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>### Hey, didn't we just talk about "leftism", not "liberalism"?</div><div><br></div><div>I understand "liberalism" very well, including the meandering of its meaning throughout the history of memetic warfare between various intellectual subspecies of humans.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In the end, liberalism as it was understood when the term was coined, is about humility, not "social services" or even good intentions. It'a pity that humility seems to have gone out of fashion a long time ago.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68);display:inline">I can't find humility anywhere in liberalism: civil rights, equality, free elections and so on, but not humility. Ben </div>
</blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68);display:inline">Franklin said that he could not attain that questionable virtue and neither can I, though I am not arrogant either. What is the use of being humble and diffident? I believe what has been proved and what agrees with my moral code, and if new data come in I change my opinion. I'd call it assertive. I'd never act as if I were right and everyone else was wrong. (Occasionally I may think so privately!) Of course, what I know, or think I know is such a tiny part of all knowledge that I am humble in some way about that. <br>
<br>And I do think good intentions go along with wanting freedoms for all peoples. I object to the term 'bleeding heart' for people who care. That sort of comment usually comes from Social Darwinists. Yes, there can be too much of it, of anything. <br>
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