<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Re: possible scheme for privacy (William Flynn Wallace)</span><br></div>
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Hello new here, actually the privacy concerns have been adressed. The hacker community is working on a project called Meshnet which aims to create a new internet from the ground using a protocol called CJDNS. On this protocol there're no ISP's and every member is a node that shares information, the data is encrypted on each node so that it achieves max privacy and makes impossible to read the information or get data on the sender. It doesn't provide anonimity though.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Currently they're on the alpha stage and the alternate internet is to be known as Hyperboria. Due to their level one can only connect through invitation but they plan to open it once the framework becomes fully functional.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://projectmeshnet.org/">https://projectmeshnet.org/</a><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default">
<font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Just my 2 cents!</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default">
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 17:59:41 -0500<br>
From: William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hey cool, this Forbes article gave me an idea:<br>
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> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/17/nsa-responds-to-snowden-claim-that-intercepted-nude-pics-routinely-passed-around-by-employees/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/17/nsa-responds-to-snowden-claim-that-intercepted-nude-pics-routinely-passed-around-by-employees/</a><br>
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> OK so the NSA reads email. So here ya go: collect a bunch of salacious<br>
> stuff, nude photos from anywhere that look like selfies, collect the kind<br>
> of text that humans like to read, send it all over the place. Then when<br>
> you want to send a private message, insert it into a long-winded highbrow<br>
> discussion from ExI, stuff normal people generally just don?t care about<br>
> and couldn?t stay awake trying to read it, stuff that excites geeks like<br>
> us, discussions on ants, math, half full glasses and such. Then take your<br>
> text, insert it into the middle of the known camouflage text. The NSA<br>
> would never get past the nude selfies.<br>
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> spike<br>
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?You are assuming that only people read email. I suspect that computers<br>
are scanning every word for suspect terms related to armament etc.<br>
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I did know of a professor who was known to read only the first couple of<br>
pages and the last one of a long essay, so students filled the middle with<br>
all sorts of irrelevant stuff they did not write themselves. bill w<br>
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Weird Al Yankovic has released a new album, Mandatory Fun. Life is good!<br>
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This is a screen grab from one of his older works, White & Nerdy. I had<br>
seen this one before and love it, but I noticed something new this time: on<br>
the screen in the background Yankovic took the time and effort to write out<br>
Schroedinger's wave equation with expanded Hamiltonian operator, and did it<br>
right. His attention to detail was such that he wrote it out correctly<br>
instead of just writing some garbage.<br>
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The man is brilliant.<br>
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Excellent!<br>
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From: John Grigg <<a href="mailto:possiblepaths2050@gmail.com">possiblepaths2050@gmail.com</a>><br>
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When the lead singer of Devo worked with Al on a project, he later stated<br>
that he had never seen someone so perceptive about music, and one step<br>
ahead of everyone else.<br>
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>From Wikipedia:<br>
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"Yankovic began kindergarten a year earlier than most children, and he<br>
skipped the second grade. "My classmates seemed to think I was some kind of<br>
rocket scientist so I was labeled a nerd early on", he recalls.[9]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9</a>> As<br>
his unusual schooling left him two years younger than most of his<br>
classmates, Yankovic was not interested in sports or social events at<br>
school. He was valedictorian <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valedictorian" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valedictorian</a>> of<br>
his senior class.[9]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9</a>><br>
Yankovic<br>
was active in his school's extracurricular programs, including the National<br>
Forensic League <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Forensic_League" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Forensic_League</a>>, a<br>
play based upon *Rebel Without a Cause<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Without_a_Cause" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Without_a_Cause</a>>*, the yearbook (for<br>
which he wrote most of the captions), and the Volcano Worshippers club,<br>
"which did absolutely nothing. We started the club just to get an extra<br>
picture of ourselves in the yearbook."[9]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-booklet-9</a>><br>
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Yankovic attended California Polytechnic State University<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Polytechnic_State_University" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Polytechnic_State_University</a>> in San<br>
Luis Obispo <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Luis_Obispo,_California" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Luis_Obispo,_California</a>> where<br>
he earned a degree in architecture.[8]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-Conrad-8" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-Conrad-8</a>>"<br>
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"Yankovic married Suzanne Krajewski in 2001; their daughter, Nina, was born<br>
in 2003.[38]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-NCT-38" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-NCT-38</a>> They<br>
also have a pet cockatiel <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatiel" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatiel</a>> named Bo<br>
Veaner[7]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-faq-7" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-faq-7</a>> and<br>
dog named Bambu. They used to have a pet poodle<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle</a>>, named Bela (pictured atop Yankovic's<br>
head on the cover of his album, *Poodle Hat<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle_Hat" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle_Hat</a>>*). Yankovic identifies as<br>
Christian and has stated that a couple from his church appeared on the<br>
cover of *Poodle Hat*.[39]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-39" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-39</a>>[40]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-40" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-40</a>><br>
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Yankovic changed his diet to become a vegan<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism</a>> in 1992, after a former girlfriend<br>
gave him the book *Diet for a New America<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_for_a_New_America" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_for_a_New_America</a>>* and he felt "it made<br>
[...] a very compelling argument for a strict vegetarian diet."[41]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-41" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-41</a>> When<br>
asked how he can "rationalize" performing at events such as the *Great<br>
American Rib Cook-Off* when he is a vegan, he replied, "The same way I can<br>
rationalize playing at a college even though I?m not a student anymore."[42]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-42" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-42</a>><br>
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On April 9, 2004, Yankovic's parents were found dead in their Fallbrook,<br>
California <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallbrook,_California" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallbrook,_California</a>>, home,<br>
apparently the victims of accidental carbon monoxide poisoning<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning</a>> from their<br>
fireplace that had been recently lit. The flue<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flue" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flue</a>> was closed, which trapped the carbon<br>
monoxide gas inside the house, suffocating them.[38]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-NCT-38" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-NCT-38</a>> Several<br>
hours after his wife notified him of his parents' death, Yankovic went on<br>
with his concert in Mankato, Minnesota<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mankato,_Minnesota" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mankato,_Minnesota</a>>,[43]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-43" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-43</a>> [44]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-44" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-44</a>>saying<br>
that "since my music had helped many of my fans through tough times, maybe<br>
it would work for me as well" and that it would "at least ... give me a<br>
break from sobbing all the time." Although Yankovic played the concert as<br>
planned, a scheduled meet and greet following the concert was canceled.[45]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-45" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-45</a>>[46]<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-46" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic#cite_note-46</a>>"<br>
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John<br>
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Weird Al Yankovic has released a new album, Mandatory Fun. Life is good!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> This is a screen grab from one of his older works, White & Nerdy. I had<br>
> seen this one before and love it, but I noticed something new this time: on<br>
> the screen in the background Yankovic took the time and effort to write out<br>
> Schroedinger?s wave equation with expanded Hamiltonian operator, and did it<br>
> right. His attention to detail was such that he wrote it out correctly<br>
> instead of just writing some garbage.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The man is brilliant.<br>
><br>
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> Excellent!<br>
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> spike<br>
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