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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Nowell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] Lockheed skunkworks announcement about fusion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy">Lockheed announces breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt' id="enhancrCard_1"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=450 style='width:337.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:.75pt'><td colspan=8 style='background:#E5E5E5;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:.75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:0pt;background:#E5E5E5'><span style='font-size:1.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr style='height:4.5pt'><td width=1 rowspan=5 style='width:.75pt;background:#E5E5E5;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:4.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal 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href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Lockheed announces breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.0pt;background:white;word-break:break-all'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#999999'>Defence company has developed 100MW reactor small enough to fit on back of a truck that could be in use within 10 years<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></td></tr><tr style='height:3.0pt'><td colspan=2 style='background:white;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:3.0pt'></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#999999'>View on <b>www.theguardian.com</b></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=100 style='width:75.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:8.25pt'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Preview by Yahoo</span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:6.75pt'><td colspan=2 style='background:white;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:6.75pt'></td></tr><tr style='height:.75pt'><td colspan=8 style='background:#E5E5E5;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:.75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:0pt;background:#E5E5E5'><span style='font-size:1.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr height=0><td width=1 style='border:none'></td><td width=170 style='border:none'></td><td width=1 style='border:none'></td><td width=5 style='border:none'></td><td width=153 style='border:none'></td><td width=112 style='border:none'></td><td width=7 style='border:none'></td><td width=1 style='border:none'></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>(Apologies for the preview at the top, people using text-only browsing, yahoo mail seems to want to do this automatically with my link)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Lockheed Martin Corp said on Wednesday it had made a technological breakthrough in developing a power source based on nuclear fusion, and the first reactors, small enough to fit on the back of a truck, could be ready for use in a decade.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Tom McGuire, who heads the project, said he and a small team had been working on fusion energy at Lockheed’s secretive Skunk Works for about four years, but were now going public to find potential partners in industry and government for their work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Initial work demonstrated the feasibility of building a 100-megawatt reactor measuring seven feet by 10 feet, which could fit on the back of a large truck, and is about 10 times smaller than current reactors, McGuire told reporters</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom I saw this yesterday and was most puzzled. As much as I would like to believe it and that my own company developed it, the numbers they are calling out make no sense to me. Just from first principles, the ones we learned in sophomore physics, we would disprove the notion of 100 megawatts coming from any device of these kinds of dimensions, a few meters on a side. Calculate the temperature that would need to reach. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am doubly puzzled by Tom McGuire releasing this. He has engineers who could advise caution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Another thing: Tom says some device can be built which can make 100 megawatts, which would solve humanity’s biggest problems in a few years. So he says they will build one in five years? No pal, if you have something like that, you will build it on the schedule the USA built fighter planes starting 7 December 1942. Not five years, not next month, we need that NOW!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I met Tom McGuire; he isn’t a bullshitter. But I must reluctantly conclude this is a mistake or is outright bogus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>