<html><head></head><body><div><span data-mailaddress="painlord2k@libero.it" data-contactname="Mirco Romanato" class="clickable"><span title="painlord2k@libero.it">Mirco Romanato</span><span class="detail"> <painlord2k@libero.it></span></span> , 16/10/2014 10:59 PM:<br><blockquote class="mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;">Il 16/10/2014 10:41, Tom Nowell ha scritto:<br>> Lockheed announces breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy <br>> <<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy>" target="_blank" title="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy>">http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/15/lockheed-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy></a>;<br><br>It is not Loockheed, but....<br><br>Magnus Olofsson, CEO of Elforsk -- Swedish Agency for Research and<br>Development in the field of energy, composed of a conglomeration of<br>energy companies -- published the following statement on October 9<br><br><a href="http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-matrapport-publicerad" target="_blank" title="http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-matrapport-publicerad">http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-matrapport-publicerad</a> (Swedish)</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Nonono, that is another, far more suspicious claim! That is the cold fusion Italian guy Andrea Rossi's E-Cat. And the elforsk results are generally regarded as suspicious; awesome if true, but there are some good reasons to think that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. </div><div>http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Omv%C3%A4rld_system/filer/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf</div><div><br></div><div>Note that they do not seem to have tested for potential attempts at fraud: given the history of the field this should be regarded as essential. If you just make reasonable tests together with the inventor you have a high likeliehood of being taken in, as Keeley and countless others have demonstrated.</div><div><br></div><br>Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford University<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote class="mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>> Report on measurements made on a LENR reactor - the release of<br>> energy and isotope<br>> <br>> Yesterday, were released the surprising results of the measures to<br>> which it was submitted a so-called "catalyst of power" over a period<br>> of a month. The report, written by researchers at KTH and Uppsala<br>> University and Bologna, describes a release of heat that can not be<br>> explained only by chemical reactions. The changes of the fuel<br>> isotopic analyzed indicate that nuclear reactions at low temperature<br>> may have occurred. This implies that we may be facing a new way to<br>> extract nuclear energy possible without ionizing radiation and<br>> radioactive waste. The discovery could potentially become very<br>> important for the energy supply worldwide. The central part of the<br>> reactor is a narrow cylinder about eight inches long. In the<br>> experiments, the reactor operated at temperatures up to about 1400<br>> degrees Celsius. It was observed a net release of energy equal to<br>> 1500 kWh. The production of thermal energy has been quantified equal<br>> to 3-4 times the electricity fed. The reactor was filled with 1 gram<br>> of nickel powder uploaded hydrogen plus some additives. In recent<br>> years, Elforsk has followed the development of the now so-called<br>> LENR, ie nuclear reactions at low energy. Elforsk has published a<br>> brief review on LENR. Elforsk has co-funded the work described in the<br>> report, in addition to previous measurements that showed an anomalous<br>> excess energy. If you can safely manage and control these reactions,<br>> at this point considered to be of nuclear origin, we will witness a<br>> fundamental transformation of our energy system. Electricity and heat<br>> could then be produced with relatively simple components, favoring<br>> the decentralization of energy supply inexpensively... To understand<br>> and explain the phenomenon we must continue the search. We will work<br>> to researchers in an attempt to confirm and then explain how it<br>> works.<br><br><br><a href="http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/10/08/new-scientific-report-on-the-e-cat-shows-excess-heat-and-nuclear-process/" target="_blank" title="http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/10/08/new-scientific-report-on-the-e-cat-shows-excess-heat-and-nuclear-process/">http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/10/08/new-scientific-report-on-the-e-cat-shows-excess-heat-and-nuclear-process/</a><br><br><a href="http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602545_Leaked-Second-Paper_With_High-Magnification_of_Rossis-Nickel-Particles_Brings_Replication_Closer/" target="_blank" title="http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602545_Leaked-Second-Paper_With_High-Magnification_of_Rossis-Nickel-Particles_Brings_Replication_Closer/">http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602545_Leaked-Second-Paper_With_High-Magnification_of_Rossis-Nickel-Particles_Brings_Replication_Closer/</a><br><br>Anyone competent in nickel powder, crystals and likes?<br><br>Mirco<br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" title="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" class="mailto">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank" title="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br></blockquote></div></div></body></html>