<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Keith Henson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> Re the whole topic related to M brains, Jupiter brains and related,nobody has ever answered my interrelated concerns of waste heat<br>
dissipation and speed of light delays. The laws of the universe, as I understand them, don’t allow for physically large objects to be fast thinkers.<br></blockquote><div><br>A physical brain size no larger than a human seems like a pretty arbitrary constraint to me. The fastest signals in the human brain move at a couple of hundred meters a second, many are far slower, light moves at 300 million meters per second. So if you insist that the 2 most distant parts of a brain communicate as fast as they do in a human brain (and it's not immediately obvious why you should insist on that) then parts in the brain of a AI could be at least one million times as distant. The volume increases by the cube of the distance so such a brain would physically be a million trillion times larger than a human brain. Even if 99.9% of that volume were used just to deliver power and get rid of waste heat you'd still have a thousand trillion times as much volume for logic and memory components as humans have room for inside their heads. And the components inside the AI would be considerably smaller than the components inside the human.<br><br></div><div> John K Clark<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>