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Hi John,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/1/2015 6:47 PM, John Clark wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">And I still don't think you answered
my question about consciousness being fundamental. Do you
think the series of all "why" continue for infinity or do
some of them eventually hit a brute fact? I think data
processed intelligently producing intelligently is just such
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I guess I just don't understand what you are asking, then. Because
the prediction is that the brute fact will be proven that something
in our brain has a fundamental redness quality.<br>
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Everything behaves the same, at least until you ask them:
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<div>And one of them would say "red is what gives black
contrast, without it vision would be useless", and the
other one would say "I understand completely, in my
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I guess if you can't see all the obvious mistakes and confusion in
these kinds of statements, and how "calling" something white (White
is a piece of zombie information), has nothing to do with the
quality being called "white", and how we are not talking about
smoething being tagged, but the qualitative nature of the tag,
itself, which enables you to know it is a redness tag (as apposed to
a grenness tag) Then I am not sure what else I can say to help.<br>
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Isn't all that matters is the following? The prediction is that we
will be able to develop the ability to throw a switch turning on a
new hack in your brain, and when we do this, you will for the first
time, experience a new blue you have never experienced before. If
we do this, you must accept that this theory about the qualitative
nature of whatever it is that has a new blue quality, as correct,
and that you will no longer be a new blue zombie?<br>
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Brent<br>
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