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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2015 8:43 AM, John Clark wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">is the idea that the sensation of
redness and light with a 620 nm wavelength are not the same
thing really supposed to a revolutionary discovery?<br>
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That's just the first step. Gallant is already reading our minds,
and could have already discovered what is responsible for a redness
quality, he is just currently mapping what he is detecting, back to
the intrinsic properties of the initial cause of the perception
process - the strawberry, resulting in the quale interpretation
problem. This method is what is making him blind to the qualitative
nature of anything he may be detecting (as illustrated in the 4
figures in the paper). In addition to realizing that 620 nm light
are different then redness, you have to corresponding map the zombie
information describing what you have detected, back to the intrinsic
quality of the knowledge, not back to the strawberry. So in
addition to realizing they are different, you simply have to
interpret things in the correct way, so you can properly interpret
the correct qualitative nature of what you are detecting (as
portrayed in the final Fig 4):<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vxfbgfm8XIqkmC5Vus7wBb982JMOA8XMrTZQ4smkiyI/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vxfbgfm8XIqkmC5Vus7wBb982JMOA8XMrTZQ4smkiyI/edit</a><br>
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to overcome the quale interpretation problem so you can
experimentally discover and detect what [is resopnsible
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<div>That would be the greatest scientific and philosophical
discovery in the history of the world, </div>
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I agree.<br>
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<div>a discovery I would not have thought possible; but you
must be talking about some other paper because it sure as
hell wasn't in the paper I read. </div>
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On 2/19/2015 7:00 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:<br>
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type="cite">Brent, I reread the paper and I have to say, whatever
you've done to it, the latest version of it is much clearer. Good
luck with the presentation at the conference.<span></span>
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At least Stathis never gave up and I've finally been able to
communicate to him.<br>
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Brent<br>
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