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--></style></head><body><div><span data-mailaddress="spike66@att.net" data-contactname="spike" class="clickable"><span title="spike66@att.net">spike</span><span class="detail"> <spike66@att.net></span></span> , 6/4/2015 7:52 PM:<br><blockquote class="mcnt mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="mcnt"><div class="mcntWordSection1"><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Anders that is you there, ja?</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Yup. That was a fun meeting. People trying to make the world better on the largest scale, whether in terms of material standards, health, tech or safety. </div><br><div><blockquote class="mcnt mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="mcnt"><div class="mcntWordSection1"><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> I am delighted there is such a healthy intersection of those two sets, the H+ crowd and the effective altruism crowd.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Here is a cool map of Bay Area meme space showing some of the reasons for the overlap: http://lesswrong.com/lw/ipm/a_map_of_bay_area_memespace/</div><br><div><blockquote class="mcnt mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="mcnt"><div class="mcntWordSection1"><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">What if we could figure out a way to tweak the feels-good knob to create positive feedback, give us a euphoric feeling over helping others, wouldn’t that be cool? We fix it to give us a good feeling when we discover some new science or technology geek thing; then it acts as a force multiplier such that we can do more effective altruism.</span></p><p class="mcntMsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>In many ways it already works like that. Not for everyone, not all the time. So even a way of strengthening it a bit would make a lot more people altruist, and make the nice ones nicer. However, just wanting to help may not be enough: many people hurt by trying to help in the wrong way or according to the wrong goals (imagine the helpful neighborhood fundamentalist). We need to improve intelligence too. </div><div><br></div><br>Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford University</body></html>