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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Existential Risks might be underestimated<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'></span><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> More is not better</span><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>…</span><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>>>…</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Agreed. I just don’t see a clear path to prevent it</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>One thing give me some hope: as a group/nation/country gets more and more food and medical care the birth rate goes down. Solid fact. Didn't it go negative in Japan awhile back?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ja, but the argument can be made that Japanese culture is doomed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>If we could just share some of our wealth to provide those things to the 3rd world<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>We do already.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> we could stop the destruction of habitat<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>For the most part, all our efforts to stop habitat destruction have failed. At best it’s a mixed success.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span> and not wind up with all of our creatures bigger than squirrel in a few million acres of zoos. Not to mention the rain forests etc.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BillW if you know of a way to save the rain forests, you will be a hero sir.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Superstition: if we give them more food, more of them will breed, more of them will live, and we will have more kids, not fewer<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Indeed. Do you offer evidence the above notion is superstition, or just assume it so? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You are aware there are currently plenty of human groups whose populations are held in check by space limitations and food limitations. We know there are efforts to bring them food and introduce birth control technology. They are grateful for the former but want no part of the latter (at least some subset within the group wants no part of the latter.) This shouldn’t surprise us: we in the advanced west have subsets of our population who reject the notion of birth control, still to this day. They have a lot of offspring. And they vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>