<p dir="ltr">On Sep 2, 2015 3:48 PM, "<a href="mailto:scerir@alice.it">scerir@alice.it</a>" <<a href="mailto:scerir@alice.it">scerir@alice.it</a>> wrote:<br>
> It is ok. I'm not saying there are physical "influences" between<br>
> the entangled particles (timelike separated or spacelike separated).</p>
<p dir="ltr">You kind of are, though.</p>
<p dir="ltr">> Nonlocal quantum phenomena cannot be described with the notions<br>
> of space and time. This means that there is no time ordering behind<br>
> nonlocal correlations, so the causal order cannot be reduced to the<br>
> temporal one. Quantum correlations somehow reveal dependence<br>
> between the events, or logical order. Experiment shows that this<br>
> dependence, or logical order, is beyond any real time ordering.</p>
<p dir="ltr">By stuff like this: you're saying that measuring one causes the other's state.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That doesn't seen to be what's happening. Instead, it looks like their states are independently caused by a common prior event.</p>
<p dir="ltr">This means there is no dependence. That's why trying to describe the dependence get messed up: it's like trying to describe a divide by zero error as if it was a normal number.</p>