<p dir="ltr">Got a bounce on this; resending.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Adrian Tymes" <<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com">atymes@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Sep 4, 2015 10:43 AM<br>Subject: Re: [ExI] R: Re: R: Re: Cramer on impossibility of FTL communication<br>To: "ExI chat list" <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br>Cc: <br><br type="attribution"><p dir="ltr">On Sep 4, 2015 9:59 AM, "John Clark" <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Adrian Tymes <<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> The common cause is their entanglement, which happens at their manufacture.<br>
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>> Or can you find me anything that directly counters this explanation?<br>
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> a billion years ago produces 2 entangled photons and sends them in opposite directions. A billion years later and a billion light years from its manufacturing point I spin my polarizing filter at random and it happens to stop at 78 degrees. There is always a 50% chance a undetermined photon will make it past a filter set at any polarization and if it does then the photon is polarized at 78 degrees and so is it's distant brother photon. A billion years after I made my measurement and 3 billion light years away if somebody happened to place a filter set at 78 degrees to intercept that other entangled photon there would be a 100% chance the photon will get through.<br>
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> If it had gone the other way (and there is a 50% chance it could have) and my photon had not made it through my filter then the distant photon must be oriented at 168 degrees (78 +90) and there would be a 0% chance it would make it through the filter set at 78 degrees a billion years in the future and 3 billion light years away.</p>
<p dir="ltr">So are you saying that the photons must be polarized at either 78 or 168 degrees, because your filter is set to 78 and measures a photon before the other one does?</p>
<p dir="ltr">If so, then if there existed a stream of entangled photons that the other site (further away) split and put through an array of filters at different orientations, could it not be determined, based on how often photons got through which ones (and thus what the odds are for each orientation), what your filter is set to?</p>
<p dir="ltr">(This might only be determinable to 99.999% accuracy, not 100%, but for that we have error detecting and correcting algorithms.)</p>
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