<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 , Adrian Tymes </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">​</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div> <font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>> ​</div>You are entirely incorrect. ​</font>Alain Aspect actually built the equivalent of my boxes in 1982</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>No, he did an apparatus with photons.  That is not the equivalent of your boxes.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​And my boxes operated with photons,</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​not that it matters; although his experiment would have been more difficult, for ​</div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">technological</font><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> not scientific reasons, Aspect would have gotten the same weird result if he'd used electrons instead of photons, or atoms or buckyballs or anything else that obeyed the laws of quantum mechanics, and as far as we know EVERYTHING obeys the laws of ​</font></div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">quantum mechanics</font><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​. And Bell didn't use </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​</font></div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">quantum mechanics<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ to develop his inequality he just used logic, so ​</div></font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">even if we someday find something better than </div></span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">quantum mechanics</font><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​ Bell's inequality would still be true if hidden variables exist, but Aspect (and my boxes) show that </font></div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Bell's inequality</font><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​ is not true therefore ​</font></div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">hidden variables<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ don't exist.</div></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">  John K Clark​</div></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​</div></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>