<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Does Ben Franklin count
for the magic square? Eh, not really, or not much. The Mayan pyramid
builders must have had some math, but somehow it all came to naught.
There were plenty of humans here a long time ago, but I know of not one
important mathematical discovery from the Americas, North or South, from
the old days, nada. <span class=""></span></span><span class=""><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">spike</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font color="#888888">You have to remember that old Ben was entirely self-taught after, roughly, grammar school, being apprenticed then to his brother. No opportunity to learn higher math, and probably no time either, being preoccupied with the printing business. But he is clearly one of the greatest minds of all time and my favorite person in history. (Even though it is not clear what he ever thought about anything much, as he was one of the greatest liars of all time, and needed it in France. A really slippery guy, esp. if you asked him about God.) He was superior at everything he tried - truly a polymath. And from such a tight-assed family - he was sent to bed without the rest of his supper once because he praised it!<br></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font color="#888888"> bill w<br></font></span></p></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:41 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">>…</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Giovanni Santostasi<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] transplant tragedy!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>Russia is not communist any longer but it is back to its old white Russia tsarist ways<span style="color:#1f497d">…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Old habits die hard. It’s too bad: they were good competitors there for a while. Competition breeds excellence (assuming of course it doesn’t result in the competitors nuking the planet to a sterile radioactive wasteland.)<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">>>…Well, technically the doctor is Italian…<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>As you noted doctor is our compatriot so a westerner. If this succeeds Canavero should be elevated to the pantheon of Galileo, Fermi, Marconi and other great Italian science mavericks. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Ja! You guys are really on it in the math world, from way back. There was a good site on this topic several years ago I can’t find now, called WopsInMath (their term, not mine) which listed several Italian math biggies and gave good bios and summaries of their contributions and discoveries. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Many of my personal favorites are Italian: Fibonacci, da Vinci (he counts, even if he did a lotta lotta other stuff) Galileo, Ricci, Cataldi, de Terzi, Corsini, Lagrange was one of yours, and these are all just the old timers I can think of, because I lose count of all those in the 1800s and later. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Compare to the USA, or just say the North American continent. Well no, either of the Americas. We had no mathematicians of note before the 19<sup>th</sup> century that I can think of, none. Anyone? Does Ben Franklin count for the magic square? Eh, not really, or not much. The Mayan pyramid builders must have had some math, but somehow it all came to naught. There were plenty of humans here a long time ago, but I know of not one important mathematical discovery from the Americas, North or South, from the old days, nada. <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></font></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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