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On 2015-09-29 21:21, William Flynn Wallace wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yes, it has a
happy ending, if you like wide scale murder from a thug.<br>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Odysseus is a
thug: raider of villages, murderer, raper, thief.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is a
hero?<br>
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By the standards of Greek mythology, definitely. <br>
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One should not apply current morality to what is going on the Illiad
or Odyssey.<br>
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Today I read some very good discussion by Ada Palmer about
Machiavelli and his role (starting here,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1429">http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1429</a> but really getting towards the point
epically in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1640">http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1640</a> and
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1640">http://www.exurbe.com/?p=1640</a> ). The key thing in her explanation is
that the fundamental ethical outlook in medieval and early
renaissance world was cruicially different from how we think today -
to such an extent that we may have a hard time even recognizing the
revolution that happened in The Prince.<br>
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Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University</pre>
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